Did the Lithuanian Elite Kill Three US Soldiers By Drowning Them In a Swamp, Intentionally Or Unintentionally?

 

This is a good question for US intelligence agencies. We can only briefly mention the facts that we know. Everyone in Lithuania who needs to knows where the swamps and marshes are, where they are not allowed to drive [1]. The fact that US soldiers were left alone and without warning signs to drive through the swamp is either criminal negligence on the part of the Lithuanian elite or an intentional crime. Looking at the Lithuanian elite’s pretended running around that swamp and the sweet demonstrations in front of the US embassy, ​​one gets the impression of a spectacle. The information given to D. Trump about the ice in Lithuania, which caused the US tank to slip into the swamp [2], shows the same lie from Lithuania. Both the communist G. Nausėda, the President of Lithuania, and the ruling communist (social democratic) party are mortal enemies of the businessman and leader of the capitalist world, D. Trump.

 

1. "The head of the Wetlands Foundation: such swamps are popularly called mires and are very dangerous

 

Amidst the debate over the “marking” of swamps, experts are reassuring – all swamps are visible on maps, there are no “unmarked” swamps, but data about them that is important for environmental protection is being highlighted, according to a press release from the Wetlands Restoration and Protection Foundation.

 

“This does not mean that a specific bog or other Lithuanian bogs are invisible to people on maps – they are indeed visible and that information is widely available. However, there are many data discrepancies in different sources and not all bogs are included in the Agricultural Data System, which is the state’s reference point for the protection of bogs and peatlands.

 

For example, the bog where the accident occurred is defined differently in different sources: In the Bogs and Peatlands Database, the part of the bog where the vehicle sank is marked as a lowland bog, and the rest as an intermediate type bog, on the map of habitats of European Community importance it is depicted as an active raised bog, in the spatial data set of the Georeferenced Base Cadastre the area is depicted as a bog, although a lake is clearly visible in part of it. Finally, in the Agricultural Data System this area is not entered as a peatland at all, although it was clearly visible that peat was being extracted,” clarifies Nerijus Zableckis, Director of the Peatlands Restoration and Protection Foundation.

 

According to the specialist, when it is enough for a person to see on the map that a swamp is marked there, which means that no transport can enter or travel to that area, it is important for scientists to consistently include these areas in databases.

 

“Therefore, when asked how many swamps and peatlands we have, it is practically impossible to answer – environmentalists will say that they calculate 10 percent of the country's area, and the Ministry of Agriculture of the Republic of Lithuania – that it is almost half as much,” explains N. Zableckis.

 

According to the environmentalist, these discrepancies are important, because it is based on the Agricultural Data System that environmental obligations for the restoration and preservation of swamps are calculated.

 

When asked about human safety, the specialist emphasizes that there are no unknown or undiscovered swamps in Lithuania, so neither by car nor on foot will you definitely get into any “unmarked” swamp.

 

N. Zableckis says that swamps are safe for people: “People have visited them at all times – to pick berries, medicinal herbs, and to get fresh water. Such swamps are safe, you can actually lose a shoe in them, you can crawl up to your waist with great effort, but in principle they are not a dangerous place for life. Mushroom pickers do not disappear in swamps, just as moose do not drown in them – no matter how much they weigh, they are too light compared to vehicles, so they do not sink.”

 

Commenting on transport, the expert emphasizes that no vehicle can enter the swamp.

 

“Cars, tractors, tanks, dump trucks, and other equipment will sink in the swamp. The swamp is a natural barrier and has always been so – even during the battles with the Teutonic Order, it did not allow the occupation of Lithuanian lands. It is the same today – it is an obstacle to the movement of infantry and is an absolutely insurmountable barrier for any military equipment,” says N. Zableckis.

 

When asked about a specific case when an armored vehicle sank in the swamp, the specialist says that they encountered a swamping lake, where the active formation of the swamp is still taking place.

 

“Such mires, as they are popularly called, are really dangerous – everything sways, sways there, and only a “carpet” of plant cover has formed on the surface. Such places are really dangerous because they are viscous and can be deep. Fortunately, a person will not enter such a swamp - it is surrounded by reed beds, through which one would have to persistently go deeper. In such places, there is no search for mushrooms, nor is there a desire to drive a car through those reed beds”, − explains the head of the Wetlands Foundation.

 

However, the specialist recommends that pedestrians also bypass the swamps - swamps are a sensitive ecosystem where rare birds breed, rare plant species grow, they are special natural habitats.

 

“If you want to experience the natural beauty of swamps, you need to visit places where educational facilities are installed.  "There are many trails - we have the Čepkeliai raistas on the Belarusian border, there is the UNESCO-listed Žuvintas, Kamanai nature reserve of unique beauty. And if you accidentally stumble upon a swamp, a person does not want to get wet or lose their shoes and usually tries not to go deep into it on their own.

 

If you accidentally go too far into the swamp - you can check the depth with a stick, thus protecting yourself from deep holes, and get out of the swamp," says the expert.

 

The Wetlands Restoration and Protection Foundation unites wetland scientists and wetland restoration specialists who study Lithuanian wetlands and carry out the restoration of wetland habitats in Lithuania.

 

"Delfi" reminds that on Monday morning it was reported that after a major operation lasting 6 days, a tank that had sunk in a swamp located at the Pabradė training ground was pulled out. And the head of the Wetlands Restoration and Protection Foundation, N. Zableckis, said that this peatland was not marked on state maps.

 

“This peatland was not marked at all on the maps available to state institutions. The protection of wetlands raises many questions, many wetlands are used for agriculture, so efforts are being made, I would say, to artificially reduce the area of ​​wetlands and claim that there are fewer of them,” N. Zableckis told LRT radio on Monday.

 

“The state should take measures and finally mark wetlands correctly. (...) The information is in certain databases, on the geoportal, but it is very scattered, does not correspond to the real situation,” he emphasized.

 

Dr. Jūratė Sendžikaitė, a botanist, wetland restoration and nature protection expert, spoke about what wetlands are and what damage was caused to nature during this operation on the Žinių radio program “Ryto espresso.” She said that as a naturalist, it hurts her, but the most important thing is to save people.”

 

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2. Trump presented the version of the accident in Pabradė that he finds most convincing

 

“US President Donald Trump has been informed about the accident in Pabradė, where a heavy US military M88 armored vehicle sank in a swamp, killing three soldiers, and a fourth is still being searched for. He also presented his version that the armored vehicle most likely slipped into the swamp.

 

When asked if he had the latest information about the US soldiers who went missing in Lithuania, the US President replied: “yes, I do.”

 

"Three of them are no longer with us, the fourth is probably also, but that has not been confirmed yet. It was a very heavy machine, really heavy, they lifted the heaviest equipment, and it seems that the bank of that lake collapsed.

 

It was night, it was very cold, a lot of ice. They probably slipped in, because it is a very large and heavy piece of equipment. Most likely, that is what happened, that they slipped in. Three are no longer with us, and one is missing," said D. Trump.”

 

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Did the Lithuanian Elite Kill Three US Soldiers By Drowning Them In a Swamp, Intentionally Or Unintentionally?

 

This is a good question for US intelligence agencies. We can only briefly mention the facts that we know. Everyone in Lithuania who needs to knows where the swamps and marshes are, where they are not allowed to drive [1]. The fact that US soldiers were left alone and without warning signs to drive through the swamp is either criminal negligence on the part of the Lithuanian elite or an intentional crime. Looking at the Lithuanian elite’s pretended running around that swamp and the sweet demonstrations in front of the US embassy, ​​one gets the impression of a spectacle. The information given to D. Trump about the ice in Lithuania, which caused the US tank to slip into the swamp [2], shows the same lie from Lithuania. Both the communist G. Nausėda, the President of Lithuania, and the ruling communist (social democratic) party are mortal enemies of the businessman and leader of the capitalist world, D. Trump.

 

1. The head of the Wetlands Foundation: such swamps are popularly called mires and are very dangerous

 

Amidst the debate over the “marking” of swamps, experts are reassuring – all swamps are visible on maps, there are no “unmarked” swamps, but data about them that is important for environmental protection is being highlighted, according to a press release from the Wetlands Restoration and Protection Foundation.

 

“This does not mean that a specific bog or other Lithuanian bogs are invisible to people on maps – they are indeed visible and that information is widely available. However, there are many data discrepancies in different sources and not all bogs are included in the Agricultural Data System, which is the state’s reference point for the protection of bogs and peatlands.

 

For example, the bog where the accident occurred is defined differently in different sources: In the Bogs and Peatlands Database, the part of the bog where the vehicle sank is marked as a lowland bog, and the rest as an intermediate type bog, on the map of habitats of European Community importance it is depicted as an active raised bog, in the spatial data set of the Georeferenced Base Cadastre the area is depicted as a bog, although a lake is clearly visible in part of it. Finally, in the Agricultural Data System this area is not entered as a peatland at all, although it was clearly visible that peat was being extracted,” clarifies Nerijus Zableckis, Director of the Peatlands Restoration and Protection Foundation.

 

According to the specialist, when it is enough for a person to see on the map that a swamp is marked there, which means that no transport can enter or travel to that area, it is important for scientists to consistently include these areas in databases.

 

“Therefore, when asked how many swamps and peatlands we have, it is practically impossible to answer – environmentalists will say that they calculate 10 percent of the country's area, and the Ministry of Agriculture of the Republic of Lithuania – that it is almost half as much,” explains N. Zableckis.

 

According to the environmentalist, these discrepancies are important, because it is based on the Agricultural Data System that environmental obligations for the restoration and preservation of swamps are calculated.

 

When asked about human safety, the specialist emphasizes that there are no unknown or undiscovered swamps in Lithuania, so neither by car nor on foot will you definitely get into any “unmarked” swamp.

 

N. Zableckis says that swamps are safe for people: “People have visited them at all times – to pick berries, medicinal herbs, and to get fresh water. Such swamps are safe, you can actually lose a shoe in them, you can crawl up to your waist with great effort, but in principle they are not a dangerous place for life. Mushroom pickers do not disappear in swamps, just as moose do not drown in them – no matter how much they weigh, they are too light compared to vehicles, so they do not sink.”

 

Commenting on transport, the expert emphasizes that no vehicle can enter the swamp.

 

“Cars, tractors, tanks, dump trucks, and other equipment will sink in the swamp. The swamp is a natural barrier and has always been so – even during the battles with the Teutonic Order, it did not allow the occupation of Lithuanian lands. It is the same today – it is an obstacle to the movement of infantry and is an absolutely insurmountable barrier for any military equipment,” says N. Zableckis.

 

When asked about a specific case when an armored vehicle sank in the swamp, the specialist says that they encountered a swamping lake, where the active formation of the swamp is still taking place.

 

“Such mires, as they are popularly called, are really dangerous – everything sways, sways there, and only a “carpet” of plant cover has formed on the surface. Such places are really dangerous because they are viscous and can be deep. Fortunately, a person will not enter such a swamp - it is surrounded by reed beds, through which one would have to persistently go deeper. In such places, there is no search for mushrooms, nor is there a desire to drive a car through those reed beds”, − explains the head of the Wetlands Foundation.

 

However, the specialist recommends that pedestrians also bypass the swamps - swamps are a sensitive ecosystem where rare birds breed, rare plant species grow, they are special natural habitats.

 

“If you want to experience the natural beauty of swamps, you need to visit places where educational facilities are installed.  "There are many trails - we have the Čepkeliai raistas on the Belarusian border, there is the UNESCO-listed Žuvintas, Kamanai nature reserve of unique beauty. And if you accidentally stumble upon a swamp, a person does not want to get wet or lose their shoes and usually tries not to go deep into it on their own.

 

If you accidentally go too far into the swamp - you can check the depth with a stick, thus protecting yourself from deep holes, and get out of the swamp," says the expert.

 

The Wetlands Restoration and Protection Foundation unites wetland scientists and wetland restoration specialists who study Lithuanian wetlands and carry out the restoration of wetland habitats in Lithuania.

 

"Delfi" reminds that on Monday morning it was reported that after a major operation lasting 6 days, a tank that had sunk in a swamp located at the Pabradė training ground was pulled out. And the head of the Wetlands Restoration and Protection Foundation, N. Zableckis, said that this peatland was not marked on state maps.

 

“This peatland was not marked at all on the maps available to state institutions. The protection of wetlands raises many questions, many wetlands are used for agriculture, so efforts are being made, I would say, to artificially reduce the area of ​​wetlands and claim that there are fewer of them,” N. Zableckis told LRT radio on Monday.

 

“The state should take measures and finally mark wetlands correctly. (...) The information is in certain databases, on the geoportal, but it is very scattered, does not correspond to the real situation,” he emphasized.

 

Dr. Jūratė Sendžikaitė, a botanist, wetland restoration and nature protection expert, spoke about what wetlands are and what damage was caused to nature during this operation on the Žinių radio program “Ryto espresso.” She said that as a naturalist, it hurts her, but the most important thing is to save people.”

 

 

2. "Trump presented the version of the accident in Pabradė that he finds most convincing

 

US President Donald Trump has been informed about the accident in Pabradė, where a heavy US military M88 armored vehicle sank in a swamp, killing three soldiers, and a fourth is still being searched for. He also presented his version that the armored vehicle most likely slipped into the swamp.

 

When asked if he had the latest information about the US soldiers who went missing in Lithuania, the US President replied: “yes, I do.”

 

"Three of them are no longer with us, the fourth is probably also, but that has not been confirmed yet. It was a very heavy machine, really heavy, they lifted the heaviest equipment, and it seems that the bank of that lake collapsed.

 

It was night, it was very cold, a lot of ice. They probably slipped in, because it is a very large and heavy piece of equipment. Most likely, that is what happened, that they slipped in. Three are no longer with us, and one is missing," said D. Trump.”