“I think there’s a fundamental issue here that Europe really
has to wake up to … You don’t win wars with GDP or euros or dollars. You win
wars with weapons, and the West doesn’t make enough weapons.”
MUNICH, GERMANY – Senator JD Vance (R-OH) delivered a “wake
up call” to Europe in remarks to the Munich Security Conference this morning.
Watch Senator Vance’s remarks here and read a transcript
below:
Senator Vance on President Trump’s success in deterring
Russia, the limited ability of the West to produce weapons, and the United
States’ need to pivot its focus to East Asia:
“We have to remember that despite a lot of the
hand-wringing, and I’ve heard a lot of it in private meetings and public
meetings, Donald Trump was maybe the best president at deterring Russia in a
generation.
“It’s interesting that so many people accuse Trump, or me, or
others of being in Putin’s pocket, and yet the person that Vladimir Putin says
he wants to be the next president is not Donald Trump – he says Joe Biden is
his preferred candidate because he’s more predictable.
“Now, on the question of European security, I think there’s
a fundamental issue here that Europe really has to wake up to. And I offer this
in the spirit of friendship, not in the spirit of criticism, because, no, I
don’t think that we should pull out of NATO, and no, I don’t think that we
should abandon Europe. But yes, I think that we should pivot. The United States
has to focus more on East Asia. That is going to be the future of American
foreign policy for the next 40 years, and Europe has to wake up to that fact.
“Now, let me just throw a couple of facts out there. Number
one, the problem in Ukraine from the perspective of the United States of
America, and I represent, I believe, the majority of American public opinion,
even though I don’t represent the majority of opinion of senators who come to
Munich, is that there’s no clear endpoint, and fundamentally the limiting
factors for American support of Ukraine, it’s not money, it’s munitions.
America, and this is true, by the way, of Europe too, we don’t make enough
munitions to support a conflict in Eastern Europe, a war in the Middle East, and
potentially a contingency in East Asia. So the United States is fundamentally
limited.
“Now, let me just throw very specific details. The PAC-3,
which is a Patriot interceptor, Ukraine uses in a month what the United States
makes in a year. The Patriot missile system is on a five year back order, 155
millimeter artillery shells on more than a five year back order. We’re talking in
the United States about ramping up our production of artillery to 100,000 a
month by the end of 2025. The Russians make close to 500,000 a month right now
at this very minute. So the problem here vis-à-vis Ukraine is America doesn’t
make enough weapons, Europe doesn’t make enough weapons, and that reality is
far more important than American political will or how much money we print and
then send to Europe.
And the final point that I’ll make just to respond here,
because I know people have heard what Trump said, and you know, they’ve
criticized it and they’ve said, well, ‘Trump is going to abandon Europe.’
“I don’t think that’s true at all. I think Trump is actually
issuing a wake up call to say that Europe has to take a bigger role in its own
security. Germany just this year will spend more than 2% of GDP. That, of
course, is something that we had to really push for in the United States, and
it just now has finally cleared that threshold.
“But it’s not just about money spent. How many mechanized
brigades could Germany field tomorrow? Maybe one. The problem with Europe is
that it doesn’t provide enough of a deterrence on its own because it hasn’t
taken the initiative in its own security. I think that the American security
blanket has allowed European security to atrophy.
“And again, the point is not we want to abandon Europe. The
point is we need to focus as a country on East Asia, and we need our European
allies to step up in Europe. I appreciate what my English friend [David Lammy]
over here said. And of course, England has been one of the few exceptions where
I think it has fielded a very capable military over the last generation. But
that hasn’t been true for a lot of Europe, and that has to change.”
Senator Vance on the need for a negotiated peace to end the conflict in Ukraine:
“It’s very hard, the juxtaposition between the idea that
Putin poses an existential threat to Europe, compared again against the fact
that we’re trying to convince our allies to spend 2% of GDP. Those ideas are
very much in tension.
I do not think that Vladimir Putin is an existential
threat to Europe and to the extent that he is, again, that suggests that Europe
has to take a more aggressive role in its own security.
“That’s number one. But again, I go back to this question
about ‘abandoning Ukraine.’ If the package that’s running through the Congress
right now, $61 billion of supplemental aid to Ukraine, goes through, I have to
be honest to you, that is not going to fundamentally change the reality on the
battlefield. The amount of munitions that we can send to Ukraine right now is
very limited.
“Again, not by American willpower or by American money, but
by American manufacturing capacity. All of those back orders that I just
highlighted, those are not problems in the future. Those are problems today,
and they provide real limitations. So all I’m saying is in that world of real
limitations, what is realistic to accomplish in Ukraine? Can we send the level
of weaponry we’ve set for the last 18 months for the next 18 months?
“We simply cannot. No matter how many checks the US Congress
writes, we are limited there. Munitions matter a lot in conflict. What we
haven’t talked about, of course, is manpower matters a lot in warfare, and we
know the Ukrainians are very limited on that. So our argument, at least my
argument here is, given the realities that we face, the very real constraints
in munitions and manpower, what is reasonable to accomplish and when do we
actually think we’re going to accomplish it?
“And my argument is, look, I think what’s reasonable to
accomplish is some negotiated peace. I think Russia has incentive to come to
the table right now. I think Ukraine, Europe, and the United States have
incentive to come to the table. That is going to happen. This will end in a
negotiated peace. The question is when it ends in a negotiated peace and what
that looks like.
Senator Vance on the state of weapons manufacturing in the
West, the risk posed by deindustrialization, and the inability of measures like
GDP to indicate a nation’s military strength:
“We need Europe to play a bigger share of the security role,
and that’s not because we don’t care about Europe … it’s because we have to
recognize that we live in a world of scarcity. When I listen to these questions
and I listen to so many of the private conversations I’ve had, one of the attitudes
that I think is very, very dominant at the Munich Security Conference is the
idea of the American superpower that can do everything all at once.
“And what I’m telling you is that we live in a world of
scarcity, a world of scarcity and weapons manufacturing and America’s capacity
to make the critical machinery of war, and that world of scarcity is what I’m
trying to get us all to wake up to. In that world of scarcity, we can’t support
Ukraine and the Middle East and contingencies in East Asia. It just doesn’t
make any sense. The math doesn’t work out in terms of weapons manufacturing.
“One final point I want to make here is I hear a lot of
self-congratulation in this room and some of the conversations that I’ve had
back home in the United States, this is not just a criticism of Europe, a lot
of self-congratulation about how much our GDP is bigger than Russia’s GDP.
“And yes, we are richer than Russia. But you don’t win conflicts with GDP or euros or dollars.
You win conflicts with weapons, and the West doesn’t make enough weapons. I don’t
mean to beat up on Germany here because I love Germany, but I want to respond
to something [Member of the German Bundestag] Ms. Lang said earlier. Look,
Germany is the one country, maybe in NATO, that did not follow the stupid
Washington consensus and allow their country to be deindustrialized during the
‘70s, ’80s, and ‘90s. And yet, at the very moment that Putin is more and more
powerful, this
is the point at which Germany starts to deindustrialize?
“Look at the number of people working in manufacturing in
Germany now versus ten years ago. Look at the critical raw materials produced
in Germany now versus ten years ago. The energy dependence now versus 10 or 20
years ago. We have got to stop deindustrializing. We want Europe to be
successful, but Europe has got to take a bigger role in its own security. You
can’t do that without industry.””
1. The only German mechanized brigade is concentrated in Lithuania. Germany is left without cover. German Chancellor Scholz is as stupid as a shoe hole. In addition, this is an idiot who is now deindustrializing Germany. Having naively interfered in Ukraine, the West stumbles naked against the threat of industrialized China.
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