Trump Urges New Spy Chief To Fire Intelligence Staffers

“WASHINGTON -- President Trump said he wants Bill Pulte, his incoming acting director of national intelligence, to begin firing a large number of employees as part of a shake-up of the U.S. intelligence community.

 

In an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Friday, Trump said he has privately told Pulte that he believes the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, which oversees 18 federal intelligence agencies and units, was "unnecessary and/or too big."

 

"I'd like to see it smaller. I think there are a lot of people in there that shouldn't be there," Trump said, pointing to holdovers from the Biden and Obama administrations. Asked whether he is calling on Pulte to fire people, Trump said he wants him to "start the process," adding that his eventual nominee to serve in the role permanently should continue that work.

 

Trump stunned many of his own advisers when he said earlier this past week that he was appointing Pulte, the director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, as his intelligence chief. The move was met with skepticism from some fellow Republicans on Capitol Hill, who raised concerns about Pulte's lack of national-security experience.

 

Pulte's role as director of national intelligence on an acting basis doesn't require Senate confirmation. He can serve in the role for 210 days.

 

Trump, in the interview, argued that Pulte's acting status is an asset. "You're less shackled," he said. "It sort of gives you more power, you know, for a somewhat limited period of time."

 

The president said he hopes Pulte can begin making changes across the intelligence community before a permanent intelligence director is confirmed.

 

"Frankly, it might be good for him to shake it up before people come," Trump said. "Because, if [Pulte] reduced the size, in conjunction with me and in conjunction with possibly the person coming in, he can do a lot of the hard work and we wouldn't have to saddle somebody that goes in."

 

Pulte didn't respond to requests for comment.

 

Democrats and some Republicans have sounded alarms that Pulte, a close Trump ally, will use his perch to target the president's perceived enemies and politicize the agency. "We don't need a weaponized DNI," Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R., S.D.) said this past week.

 

Trump's decision to elevate Pulte has also complicated a push to reauthorize a powerful surveillance program that is set to expire in the coming days, Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Early Friday, a Senate vote to move forward on reauthorizing the program failed after some lawmakers cited concerns about Pulte.

 

The president said that on Friday he was interviewing two candidates for the permanent intelligence-director role, "one from business and one from the world of politics." He declined to name them. "Bill is not going to be there that long," Trump said.

 

Speaking later on Air Force One, Trump said he had five interviews for the job and that Pulte would be the acting director for as long as it takes to get a new person confirmed by the Senate. "He'll do a good job, he's watching during this time period," Trump said.

 

Asked why he wanted Pulte to reduce intelligence staffing levels, Trump said the number has "been way too high for way too long; if he cut I wouldn't mind that."

 

Meanwhile, Trump told the Journal he wants Pulte to approach the job similarly to the way Education Secretary Linda McMahon has managed her agency.

 

McMahon has moved to reduce the size of the department, which Trump has previously said he wants to eliminate, and shift some of its duties to other agencies.

 

Pulte said last year that Fannie Mae, the government-backed mortgage giant that falls under the purview of his housing agency, was firing more than 100 employees. The administration later fired about a dozen officials in Fannie Mae's ethics and internal investigations unit. Pulte is the chairman of the board for both Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

 

The director of national intelligence is the president's top intelligence adviser. The DNI's powers include briefing the president on the most sensitive U.S. secrets, exercising authority over the $100 billion annual U.S. spy budget and holding sway over which secrets to declassify.

 

The president said he wants Pulte to release more classified documents related to issues such as his 2020 election loss to Joe Biden. Asked what kind of documents Pulte should consider releasing, Trump said, "I would say everything -- he should look at everything and make a determination."

 

In recent weeks, Pulte privately argued to Trump that he would be a good candidate to succeed Tulsi Gabbard as director of national intelligence, underscoring his loyalty to the president, the Journal previously reported. Gabbard said last month that she was stepping down.

 

The ODNI has already made far-reaching cuts. Gabbard launched an initiative last year to make the agency more efficient. As part of the effort, Gabbard reduced the size of the agency's staff by nearly 50%, according to an ODNI official. The official said that Gabbard has said she would be supportive of terminating the agency if necessary.

 

Some in the Trump administration have at times been frustrated with Pulte for bypassing the chain of command to get access to Trump.

 

Referred to by some as "Little Trump," Pulte won the president's confidence through his aggressive approach to his role as the administration's housing chief. He alleged that several of Trump's perceived foes committed mortgage fraud, including Sen. Adam Schiff (D., Calif.); New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat; and Lisa Cook, a member of the Federal Reserve Board of Governors.

 

Trump pointed to Pulte's allegations against Cook when he moved to fire her as Fed governor last year. Cook's legal challenge is currently pending before the Supreme Court. Schiff and Cook weren't charged with any crimes. All have denied wrongdoing.

 

Pulte also bolstered Trump's campaign against the Fed's then-chair, Jerome Powell, calling for his ouster on social media and drafting a letter for Trump to fire Powell. Trump's moves against the Fed officials came as he complained that the central bank wasn't cutting interest rates to his liking.” [1]

 

1. Trump Urges New Spy Chief To Fire Intelligence Staffers. Schwartz, Brian.  Wall Street Journal, Eastern edition; New York, N.Y.. 06 June 2026: A1.